Wirelect is on holiday until July.
Have a nice summer, everyone!
Warrington is an ancient settlement on the banks of the River Mersey, a river that has served as a natural boundary for millennia to Celtic tribes, Romans, Vikings, and Anglo-Saxons. The cultures and languages have all left their mark on the town and, indeed, the dialect.
Thursday, June 14, 2012
Sunday, May 13, 2012
Make and take - a quick survey
We haven't had a survey in quite a while, so here is a quick one.
This relates to the verbs make and take. Both very common words in the English language, but they are not as related as their spelling and pronunciation might suggest.
Make has developed from the Old English verb macian and even further back West Germanic dialect forms such as makon and makia.
Take, on the other hand, has developed from the Old Norse verb taka.
In Standard English, both make and take are pronounced with a diphthong /ei/. A diphthong is a sound that moves from one vowel sound to another, hence the "diph" meaning two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphthong
The diphthong in make and take starts with the vowel sound /e/ as in "bet"and moves (or glides as linguists put it) to end up at the vowel sound in /i/ as in bit, so we get /meik/ and /teik/. This is the case for Standard English, not so everywhere! And it wasn't always like this. Make and take used to be pronounced much more like the Old English and Old Norse forms, but the vowel sounds changed over time. Have a look at this link to the Great Vowel Shift: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift it's a bit technical, but interesting nonetheless.
Interestingly, the vowel sound in macian was somewhere between the /a/ in "car" in Standard English and "car" in the Warrington dialect. The other Germanic languages also developed their word for make from the same root:
To make:
To take
So, how do you pronounce make and take?
Personally, I pronounce make in the same way as Standard English, but I pronounce take as /tek/.What this means is that my pronunciation of make is the most modern pronunciation, but my pronunciation of take is much older.
This relates to the verbs make and take. Both very common words in the English language, but they are not as related as their spelling and pronunciation might suggest.
Make has developed from the Old English verb macian and even further back West Germanic dialect forms such as makon and makia.
Take, on the other hand, has developed from the Old Norse verb taka.
In Standard English, both make and take are pronounced with a diphthong /ei/. A diphthong is a sound that moves from one vowel sound to another, hence the "diph" meaning two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphthong
The diphthong in make and take starts with the vowel sound /e/ as in "bet"and moves (or glides as linguists put it) to end up at the vowel sound in /i/ as in bit, so we get /meik/ and /teik/. This is the case for Standard English, not so everywhere! And it wasn't always like this. Make and take used to be pronounced much more like the Old English and Old Norse forms, but the vowel sounds changed over time. Have a look at this link to the Great Vowel Shift: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift it's a bit technical, but interesting nonetheless.
Interestingly, the vowel sound in macian was somewhere between the /a/ in "car" in Standard English and "car" in the Warrington dialect. The other Germanic languages also developed their word for make from the same root:
To make:
- German - machen
- Dutch - maken
To take
- Danish - tage
- Icelandic - taka
- Norwegian - ta
- Swedish - ta
So, how do you pronounce make and take?
Personally, I pronounce make in the same way as Standard English, but I pronounce take as /tek/.What this means is that my pronunciation of make is the most modern pronunciation, but my pronunciation of take is much older.
Friday, April 27, 2012
Another little snippet - Rugby dialect
Local team sports are great for hearing the dialect. It can be any sport, but in the case of Warrington it is rugby. We are at our most tribal when we follow, support and watch our local team play. It is the perfect opportunity to throw ourselves fully into our culture, our history, our dialect. We actively want to belong to our team and our town, and we will go to great lengths to display that belonging. We have our tribal colours (primrose and blue), we have our tribal songs, we have our tribal territory (the old Wilderspool ground and now the Halliwell-Jones stadium). It is a time when we can overlook our differences and come together as a coherent unit united against our common enemies.
This all sounds a bit dramatic, but all you have to do is go to a local game and watch and listen as we psychologically gather behind our team. For a couple of hours we openly hate the opposing team and its supporters. These supporters may well be at other times our friends, workmates, possibly even neighbours, but for the duration of the match they are enemies. You are either in or you are out; us and them!
A clear example of the dialect at work is in the common name of the team – The Wire. Since the inception of the Super League in 1996, the Warrington team has been known as the Warrington Wolves. This naming policy has far more to do with corporate branding than with the town itself, and this is reflected in the name given to the team by the supporters and inhabitants of the town – The Wire. I do not know anyone who actually refers to the team as the Wolves, and tellingly the team is referred to as "The Wire" in some places on the Warrington Wolves website.
Wire working had been established in the town in the late 18th century and the factories of William Houghton and Nathaniel Greening provided employment for local workers. As bigger and more productive factories grew in the town, names such as John Rylands, Thomas Locker and Frederick Monks became household names in Warrington, and by the start of the 20th century they were the main employers in the town. Wire-drawing was not the only metal-working industry in Warrington, but it was the most important, and hence the beloved local rugby team acquired the name – The Wire.
This is a perfect example of a dialect word that develops specifically in a particular location and acquires specific meaning and prestige. Wire was so important to Warrington that it came to define the town. Equally, the successful local rugby team that travelled the country and even further afield became an ambassador for the town, and as an ambassador it had to represent what the town represented – wire.
“The Wire” means something to native Warringtonians, which is lost on anyone else. This is the essence of dialect.
Sunday, April 22, 2012
The many names of death
I do not intend this post to be sombre, but a couple of words for dying popped into my head and I wondered how common they are.
There are many ways of describing the act of dying in the English language, for example:
to croak, to kick the bucket, to pop your clogs, to shuffle off the mortal coil, to go domino, etc.These all seem to be common throughout the country, and indeed the wider world. But how common are the following:
A quick search for references to cark revealed a long history but with different meanings. Wiktionary has cark as related to Middle English carken and Old English carcian, meaning to be anxious about something or to care for:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cark
Whereas the Free Dictionary has it as related to Norman French carquier meaning to burden:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/carked
Kiff or kiffed, on the other hand, has many different meanings from joining a gang and really liking something to feeling a bit strange, and many others (Google it).
These two verbs were both in use by my peers, and one of my frineds used kiffed when I was in Warrington in November.
Any other words for death? What do cark and kiff mean to you?
There are many ways of describing the act of dying in the English language, for example:
to croak, to kick the bucket, to pop your clogs, to shuffle off the mortal coil, to go domino, etc.These all seem to be common throughout the country, and indeed the wider world. But how common are the following:
- To cark it
- To kiff it
A quick search for references to cark revealed a long history but with different meanings. Wiktionary has cark as related to Middle English carken and Old English carcian, meaning to be anxious about something or to care for:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cark
Whereas the Free Dictionary has it as related to Norman French carquier meaning to burden:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/carked
Kiff or kiffed, on the other hand, has many different meanings from joining a gang and really liking something to feeling a bit strange, and many others (Google it).
These two verbs were both in use by my peers, and one of my frineds used kiffed when I was in Warrington in November.
Any other words for death? What do cark and kiff mean to you?
Thursday, April 19, 2012
A little taster of the book
Here is a little snippet of one of the introductory pages of the book. There will be more in the coming weeks and months. Let me know what you think.
I remember when I was a kid, no-one ever talked about a dialect. Come to mention it, no-one ever talked about language much. If someone brought up the subject of language, it was usually about some other language, some foreign language - usually French – and how it sounds “bloody lovely”. Or maybe German and how that sounds “bloody awful”. The English language never came up much in conversation; it seemed to be reserved for school. But the English we learned in school was a strange animal, it didn’t feel like the English that I knew and it certainly didn’t sound like the English that I spoke.
We were told not to split infinitives, or leave dangling prepositions. We were warned about “bad grammar” and told to pronounce properly. I didn’t know what any of that meant, except the pronunciation bit, and as far as I could tell I pronounced the words in exactly the same way as everyone I knew, so didn’t that count as pronouncing properly?
I distinctly remember one lesson when we had been forewarned that it would be about bad language. The excitement was palpable. The entire class was itching to hear the teachers explain to us about swearing. We thought that they might swear during their explanations; we even thought that we might get to swear, purely, of course, as an integral part of an active discussion. We couldn’t wait for that lesson to start. I remember that, for once, everyone was sitting nicely, facing the front, paying attention.
Miss Gardiner, “with an I; GAR-DI-NER”, she always told us in over-exaggerated syllables, turned to face the class.
“What is bad language?”, she said dramatically.
“Fuck off”, someone replied from the back before she could make the rhetoric apparent.
“Out”, she said pointing to the corridor with her bony finger, and we all suddenly realised that it wasn’t going to be the lesson we had hoped for. That was the way it was taught in those days, and I’m not talking about the 1950s here, this happened in the mid-80s!
The British education system just didn’t know how to get creative with regard to its mother tongue. Instead of embracing the diversity of regional variety, exploring the history of the development of the language, and using the way we actually spoke as a means to highlight our linguistic heritage, we were told that we couldn’t speak properly, and more damagingly, the inference was that we would never learn.
The scary thing is that my school was a perfectly ordinary comprehensive in an upper working class area of Warrington. It was hardly Eton College or some other public school hell-bent on brow beating every last drop of the regional out of my speech. My school was “dead ordinary” as we put it, and the staff seemed ordinary too, but there was an insidious slant to the English curriculum that had infected all schools.
Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Hard boiled or soft?
How do you like your eggs? Hard boiled or soft?
Nowadays I like a hard-boiled egg, but when I was a kid my mum would make me soft-boiled eggs with soldiers (everyone knows what they are, right?)
The point of this post is not the name of the strips of toast, although any comments on those are most welcome, rather the eggs themselves. The soft-boiled type for dipping were called "Chucky eggs". I am assuming that this is the correct spelling as I don't remember writing it down before. Nevertheless, chucky eggs were soft-boiled eggs, just right for dipping soldiers into.
I have found one reliable reference from Michael Quinion, who gives a different definition:
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-cho2.htm
Did you call them chucky eggs? Or something else?
Nowadays I like a hard-boiled egg, but when I was a kid my mum would make me soft-boiled eggs with soldiers (everyone knows what they are, right?)
The point of this post is not the name of the strips of toast, although any comments on those are most welcome, rather the eggs themselves. The soft-boiled type for dipping were called "Chucky eggs". I am assuming that this is the correct spelling as I don't remember writing it down before. Nevertheless, chucky eggs were soft-boiled eggs, just right for dipping soldiers into.
I have found one reliable reference from Michael Quinion, who gives a different definition:
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-cho2.htm
Did you call them chucky eggs? Or something else?
Thursday, April 5, 2012
Wirelect - the book!
As I posted on the Wirelect Facebook page earlier today, I have now started writing the book based on this blog and the Warrington dialect itself.
From time to time I will post snippets of the text on here as a taster.
Now is the time to tell your friends and post your comments, dialect words, sayings, anything related to the Warrington dialect - it will most probably end up in the book!
Also, as you will have noticed, we now have a new picture for the blog. I took the picture on my visit to Warrington in November 2011, the afternoon of Guy Fawke's Night, to be precise. I want to keep the bridge over the Mersey as the central theme of the blog because the crossing point over the river has been so central to the development of the town over the past two millenia, and quite possibly for much longer.
In keeping with this theme, are there any dialect words for the river itself?
From time to time I will post snippets of the text on here as a taster.
Now is the time to tell your friends and post your comments, dialect words, sayings, anything related to the Warrington dialect - it will most probably end up in the book!
Also, as you will have noticed, we now have a new picture for the blog. I took the picture on my visit to Warrington in November 2011, the afternoon of Guy Fawke's Night, to be precise. I want to keep the bridge over the Mersey as the central theme of the blog because the crossing point over the river has been so central to the development of the town over the past two millenia, and quite possibly for much longer.
In keeping with this theme, are there any dialect words for the river itself?
Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Animal names
Yesterday, for some reason, the word "snig" came to me as I was driving to work.
I immediately emailed my Dad, who used this word when I was a child, to ask him what it referred to. I had a memory that it meant snail, but I wasn't sure. He informed me that it meant a worm, but he hadn't used it for years either.
A quick Google search didn't produce much, but the Cheshire dialect glossary, which I linked to in my last post, has an entry on page 193 for snig meaning an eel!
http://www.archive.org/stream/glossaryofwordsu00leigrich#page/192/mode/2up
This got me thinking about other animal names used in the dialect.
I have always been interested in birds. As a child I would go bird-spotting with my Dad along the Sankey - St Helens canal. A regular sight on the flooded area of land between the canal and Sankey Brook, underneath the footbridge, were Moorhens. These Moorhens (Gallinula tenebrosa) were referred to by several names:
http://www.archive.org/stream/glossaryofwordsu00leigrich#page/56/mode/2up
I found this surprising as I have always known Dabchick as an alternative name for a Little Grebe (Tachybaptus ruficollis) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Grebe another species that frequented the same flooded area of land between the waterways.
Another species we used to watch on the fields next to the American airbase (they all seem to be housing estates nowadays) was the Lapwing (Vanellus vanellus). The Lapwing has various names depending on which part of the country you are from (see Wakelin. M, Discovering English Dialects. 1978, page 39). To me the Lapwing was referred to as:
Does anyone have similar memories or names for animals?
I immediately emailed my Dad, who used this word when I was a child, to ask him what it referred to. I had a memory that it meant snail, but I wasn't sure. He informed me that it meant a worm, but he hadn't used it for years either.
A quick Google search didn't produce much, but the Cheshire dialect glossary, which I linked to in my last post, has an entry on page 193 for snig meaning an eel!
http://www.archive.org/stream/glossaryofwordsu00leigrich#page/192/mode/2up
This got me thinking about other animal names used in the dialect.
I have always been interested in birds. As a child I would go bird-spotting with my Dad along the Sankey - St Helens canal. A regular sight on the flooded area of land between the canal and Sankey Brook, underneath the footbridge, were Moorhens. These Moorhens (Gallinula tenebrosa) were referred to by several names:
- Moorhen
- Marsh hen
- Water hen (or Waggies pronounced with the same vowel as in water)
http://www.archive.org/stream/glossaryofwordsu00leigrich#page/56/mode/2up
I found this surprising as I have always known Dabchick as an alternative name for a Little Grebe (Tachybaptus ruficollis) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Grebe another species that frequented the same flooded area of land between the waterways.
Another species we used to watch on the fields next to the American airbase (they all seem to be housing estates nowadays) was the Lapwing (Vanellus vanellus). The Lapwing has various names depending on which part of the country you are from (see Wakelin. M, Discovering English Dialects. 1978, page 39). To me the Lapwing was referred to as:
- Peewit
- Lapwing
- Green Plover
Does anyone have similar memories or names for animals?
Friday, March 16, 2012
The Cheshire dialect
I found a wonderful reference work on line called The Dialect of Cheshire. You can read the entire book online here: http://www.archive.org/stream/glossaryofwordsu00leigrich#page/n5/mode/2up
The book was first published in 1877, and it contains many words that are still in use in the Warrington dialect. Warrington, of course, only became part of Cheshire in 1974, but the county bordered Warrington for centuries and therefore shares many local words and phrases.
The book was first published in 1877, and it contains many words that are still in use in the Warrington dialect. Warrington, of course, only became part of Cheshire in 1974, but the county bordered Warrington for centuries and therefore shares many local words and phrases.
Friday, March 9, 2012
Lancashire Dialect by Peter Wright
I have just finished reading Lancashire Dialect by Peter Wright. It was first published in 1976, and gives a wonderful insight into the Lancashire dialect(s) of that time. The style of writing is a little dated, but it was a very enjoyable read especially as it is contemporary with the dialect(s) in use around the time of my birth (1974). What struck me about the linguistic data contained in the book is how "broad" it sounds, and yet how familiar it is at the same time. Many of the words and sayings in the book I did not use growing up, and I cannot remember my parents using them, but I do remember them being in use.
One thing that struck me in particular, however, is the use of the Middle English (circa 1150- 1500) personal pronouns in use at the time. They are, indeed, still in use to a much lesser extent today, but I am sorry to say that I believe they have completely fallen out of use in the speech of the younger generation. I would love to be proved wrong!
For comparison, here are the personal pronouns in Modern English:
Singular Plural
Subject Object Possessive Subject Object Possessive
I me mine we us our
you you your you you your
he/she/it him/her/it his/hers/its they them their
and here are the personal pronouns in Middle English:
Singular Plural
Subject Object Possessive Subject Object Possessive
ik/ich/I me my(n) we us oure
thou thee thy(n) ye you your
he/sche/hit hit/him/hire his/his/hire he/they hem/them her/their
The personal pronouns I am referring to are the 2nd person singular subject and object forms: thou and thee.
I can distinctly remember hearing these used in ordinary everyday speech in sentences such as:
One thing that struck me in particular, however, is the use of the Middle English (circa 1150- 1500) personal pronouns in use at the time. They are, indeed, still in use to a much lesser extent today, but I am sorry to say that I believe they have completely fallen out of use in the speech of the younger generation. I would love to be proved wrong!
For comparison, here are the personal pronouns in Modern English:
Singular Plural
Subject Object Possessive Subject Object Possessive
I me mine we us our
you you your you you your
he/she/it him/her/it his/hers/its they them their
and here are the personal pronouns in Middle English:
Singular Plural
Subject Object Possessive Subject Object Possessive
ik/ich/I me my(n) we us oure
thou thee thy(n) ye you your
he/sche/hit hit/him/hire his/his/hire he/they hem/them her/their
The personal pronouns I am referring to are the 2nd person singular subject and object forms: thou and thee.
I can distinctly remember hearing these used in ordinary everyday speech in sentences such as:
- 'Ow's thee doin'? (How are you doing?)
- Sit thee doon/down. (Sit down.)
- Ay, tha wer' reet. (tha=thou) (Yes, you were right.)
and the classic play on the Middle English 2nd person singular personal pronoun thee and the definite article the. As follows:
A person is looking for somewhere to throw a piece of rubbish, and they ask:
- Where's the bin? (lit. - Where is the bin?) (Dialect - Where has thee been?)
to which comes the reply:
- A's bin nowhere, where's you bin? (I haven't been anywhere, where have you been?)
Do you use these pronouns? Are they still common in Warringtonian speech? Or are they archaic and old fashioned?- Where's the bin? (lit. - Where is the bin?) (Dialect - Where has thee been?)
to which comes the reply:
- A's bin nowhere, where's you bin? (I haven't been anywhere, where have you been?)
Monday, February 27, 2012
C'est la vie!
I would like to start this post by thanking everyone who has commented on the blog over the past few weeks. Thanks for this must go especially to Gaynor, who kindly wrote a letter to the Warrington Guardian promoting the blog. My most sincere thanks :-)
OK, now down to business.
There have been many interesting comments over the past weeks, and I would like to pick out a few here.
TF and the Wire pointed out that we Warringtonians say "chipper" for chip shop - I have to say that I grew up hearing both. There was a definite generation difference in the use of the words, my parents would say "chipper", whereas my peer group would say "chippie". I used them both depending on who I was talking to.
Gaynor and Yorick made a very interesting comment about San fairy Ann, which indeed comes from the French Ça ne fait rien or "It doesn't matter".
To respond to Gaynor's remark about speaking French, did you know that approximately 30 percent of all English vocabulary is derived from the French language?
Take the last sentence as an example. Highlighted are all the words that have a French origin:
- Did you know that approximately 30 percent of all English vocabulary is derived from the French language?
In all honesty, I did not plan that sentence at all. Nevertheless, there are 17 words in the sentence, and 5 of them have a French origin; that's 29 percent!
The reason that English has so many words of French origin is thanks to William of Normandy, or as we more commonly know him, William the Conqueror. After his victory at the Battle of Hastings in 1066, William set England on a path that would change its linguistic character for ever. The ruling classes of England would speak French for hundreds of years, and with them they would bring their language.
It is thanks to William and his legacy that we have linguistic doublets, the most obvious of these are those concerning food where the common animal, often looked after by the poor English surfs, retains the English name, but the corresponding food of the French ruling elite has the French name:
- Sheep- Mutton
- Cow - Beef
- Deer - Venison
- Pig - Pork
Friday, December 9, 2011
Talking in questions
In response to Gaynor's comment on my last post, I wanted to point out a phenomenom that we don't necessarily notice.
Gaynor commented that she hopes that the trend of speaking in questions doesn't catch on. I whole-heartedly agree (although I think it might already be too late) if the questions we are referring to are the kind that end sentences with a "Yeh?" For example:
"It's gonna be great, yeh?"
"You're gonna love it, yeh?"
Another pet hate is rising intonation, but we will deal with that another time.
The fact is, we all speak in questions most of the time, we just don't notice it. These questions are not questions at all, really. They are called "tag questions", and their purpose is not to illicit a true response, rather to aid the flow of the conversation by constantly including the interlocutors (other people in the conversation). Here are a few examples that you may find familiar:
"Ay, he's bloody good on that guitar, i'nt 'e?" (isn't he)
"She looks lovely in that frock, du'nt she?" (doesn't she)
"It was a belter, that film, wa'n't it?" (wasn't it)
"I've said it before, 'avn't a? (haven't I)
Imagine having a conversation without using these tag questions. Better still, try to have a conversation without using them, and see how stilted and abrupt the conversation seems.
The reader will notice that the verbs in the tag questions agree with the verbs in the main clause, as follows:
The verbs are invariably switched according to whether the verb in the main clause is negated or not, so a declarative statement that says, "He is bloody good..." is followed by an interrogative tag question "...is he not?" (isn't he):
If the declarative statement is negated, "He is not very good on that guitar..." then the interrogative tag question is not negated "... is he?"
Gaynor commented that she hopes that the trend of speaking in questions doesn't catch on. I whole-heartedly agree (although I think it might already be too late) if the questions we are referring to are the kind that end sentences with a "Yeh?" For example:
"It's gonna be great, yeh?"
"You're gonna love it, yeh?"
Another pet hate is rising intonation, but we will deal with that another time.
The fact is, we all speak in questions most of the time, we just don't notice it. These questions are not questions at all, really. They are called "tag questions", and their purpose is not to illicit a true response, rather to aid the flow of the conversation by constantly including the interlocutors (other people in the conversation). Here are a few examples that you may find familiar:
"Ay, he's bloody good on that guitar, i'nt 'e?" (isn't he)
"She looks lovely in that frock, du'nt she?" (doesn't she)
"It was a belter, that film, wa'n't it?" (wasn't it)
"I've said it before, 'avn't a? (haven't I)
Imagine having a conversation without using these tag questions. Better still, try to have a conversation without using them, and see how stilted and abrupt the conversation seems.
The reader will notice that the verbs in the tag questions agree with the verbs in the main clause, as follows:
- "He is bloody good on that guitar, isn't he?
He - personal pronoun, third person, masculine
is - to be, present tense, third person, non gender specific
It would sound ridiculous to use verbs that do not agree as follows:
- "He is bloody good on that guitar, wasn't he/hasn't he/didn't he?"
The verbs are invariably switched according to whether the verb in the main clause is negated or not, so a declarative statement that says, "He is bloody good..." is followed by an interrogative tag question "...is he not?" (isn't he):
- He is... isn't he
If the declarative statement is negated, "He is not very good on that guitar..." then the interrogative tag question is not negated "... is he?"
- He is not... is he
An interesting side note is the use of tag questions by the youth particularly in the London area, where the tag question "Isn't it?" is usually contracted and pronounced as "Innit?" We have all heard this, but the interesting feature of its use by young people is that it does not agree with the verb is in the main clause.
For example, I have heard young people (15 - 25) in the London area say the following:
- "I'm goin' out, innit?"
- "I don't care, innit?"
- "I told him I don't want to, innit?"
They seem to be favouring the "to be" verb in all tag questions, rather than matching the verb in the tag with the main clause. As a comparison, I would say the above statements as follows:
- "I'm goin' out, aren't a?"
- "I don't care, do a?"
- "I told 'im I don't want to, di'n't a?" (didn't I)
Note: The final sentence is actually more complicated than it looks at first glance. The verb that the tag question (didn't I) actually agrees with is the non verbalised "did" in the main clause, and NOT the "don't" in the "I don't want to".
To simplify things, imagine that I had said, "I did tell him" instead of "I told him" and you will see that the verb in the tag does indeed agree.
Sunday, December 4, 2011
Knew, New, and News.
During my visit to Warrington last month, I was surprised to hear my sister pronounce a word in a way that I thought impossible in the dialect. The word was "knew", as in "I knew it."
I had always thought that we Warringtonians, like the vast majority of people in the country, pronounce "knew" with the phonetic /j/ after the "n" as follows:
/nju/
as opposed to our American cousins who generally pronounce it without the phonetic /j/ as follows:
/nu/
I thought that this held true for all the words with this combination of sounds: "new", "knew", "news"; apparently not!
I was surprised, nay, shocked, to hear my beloved older sister pronounce "knew" without the phonetic /j/. I listened more closely, thinking perhaps that she had been thinking of another word and had mispronounced accidentally, but no, she repeatedly pronounced it as /nu/.
The one thing I didn't do was compare her pronunciation of the other words normally pronounced with the /nj/ combination: "new" and "news" (my rationale being that there may be some interference from the present tense form of the verb "to know", which, of course, is never pronounced with /nj/).
I will report back on this topic the next time I speak to her.
How do my fellow Warringtonians pronounce "knew"? Let me know. Post a comment.
I had always thought that we Warringtonians, like the vast majority of people in the country, pronounce "knew" with the phonetic /j/ after the "n" as follows:
/nju/
as opposed to our American cousins who generally pronounce it without the phonetic /j/ as follows:
/nu/
I thought that this held true for all the words with this combination of sounds: "new", "knew", "news"; apparently not!
I was surprised, nay, shocked, to hear my beloved older sister pronounce "knew" without the phonetic /j/. I listened more closely, thinking perhaps that she had been thinking of another word and had mispronounced accidentally, but no, she repeatedly pronounced it as /nu/.
The one thing I didn't do was compare her pronunciation of the other words normally pronounced with the /nj/ combination: "new" and "news" (my rationale being that there may be some interference from the present tense form of the verb "to know", which, of course, is never pronounced with /nj/).
I will report back on this topic the next time I speak to her.
How do my fellow Warringtonians pronounce "knew"? Let me know. Post a comment.
Wednesday, November 30, 2011
New dialect word of the week
After a break and a trip to see my Dad (who is now recovering from his heart attack), we have a new dialect word of the week.
This time it is a culinary treat :-)
This time it is a culinary treat :-)
Friday, November 4, 2011
Elision - or what's left out!
I would like to dedicate this post to my Dad who is recovering from a heart attack in hospital!
Looks like I'm going to hear the dialect again sooner than I thought.
Elision is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) as follows:
Looks like I'm going to hear the dialect again sooner than I thought.
Elision is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) as follows:
Elision
noun
[mass noun]- the omission of a sound or syllable when speaking (as in I’m, let’s):the shortening of words by elision
Elision is an important part of the Warrington dialect, and it has come up in a couple of comments, so I would like to elaborate on it here.
As the definition suggests, elision is concerned with leaving certain sounds out. But it is not solely confined to contractions such as I'm (I am), they're (they are), isn't (is not), etc. The most apparent incidence of elision in the dialect occurs with the definite article, or "the", when it precedes a word that begins with a vowel sound.
In the case of elision, it is important to be precise when talking about the beginnings of words; here we I will be referring to sounds and not letters. This becomes apparent when we take into consideration the common phenomenon of h-dropping. H-dropping, as the name suggests, is the phenomenon of leaving the "h" sound unpronounced at the beginning of words in which it is usually pronounced (words such as hour, honour, honesty, to name but a few, are never pronounced with the initial "h").
H-dropping is by no means specific to the Warrington dialect, but it is a clear feature of the dialect, and can be heard in the speech of the majority of Warringtonians. Words such as horse, house, heater, etc are pronounced without the initial "h" as follows: 'orse, 'ouse, 'eater; the "h" is replaced by an omission apostrophe as in the previously mentioned contractions.
The frequency of h-dropping in the dialect provides speakers with ample opportunity for definitie-article elision because the lack of the initial "h" frees up, as it were, the initial vowel sounds. Thus, 'orse, 'ouse, and 'eater begin with the sounds /o/, /a/, and /i/ respectively.
The elision occurs when the definite article "the" is required. The "e" in "the" is lost and the remaining "th" is combined with the subsequent word as follows: th'orse, th'ouse, th'eater; the horse, the house, and the heater, respectively.
However, I suspect that this particular type of elision is either on the way out, or possibly has disappeared from the speech of younger generations in the town!
For example, among my own peer group (born early to mid 1970s), I do not remember hearing it used hardly at all. An example of one of the different types of elision arising at the time can be seen in references to the Warrington hospital.
As a young man, I would have said "I am going to the hospital" as follows:
"Am gooin the ozzy"
whereas my parents generation (born 1930s & 1940s) still pronounce the same sentence as follows:
"Am goin' t'th'ospital"
There are various phonetic differences that I am unable to transcribe here, but the main difference is in the elision between "the" and "hospital". My parents' generation maintain the elision described above th'ospital. My idiolect (the form of the dialect that any given individual speaks) does not show any elision between "the" and "hospital" at all. In fact, there is an intrusive /j/ (pronounced like "y" in yoga) between "the" and "hospital" as follows: the (y)'ozzy.
What is your experience? Think about what you say and how you say it, and post your comments here!
H-dropping is by no means specific to the Warrington dialect, but it is a clear feature of the dialect, and can be heard in the speech of the majority of Warringtonians. Words such as horse, house, heater, etc are pronounced without the initial "h" as follows: 'orse, 'ouse, 'eater; the "h" is replaced by an omission apostrophe as in the previously mentioned contractions.
The frequency of h-dropping in the dialect provides speakers with ample opportunity for definitie-article elision because the lack of the initial "h" frees up, as it were, the initial vowel sounds. Thus, 'orse, 'ouse, and 'eater begin with the sounds /o/, /a/, and /i/ respectively.
The elision occurs when the definite article "the" is required. The "e" in "the" is lost and the remaining "th" is combined with the subsequent word as follows: th'orse, th'ouse, th'eater; the horse, the house, and the heater, respectively.
However, I suspect that this particular type of elision is either on the way out, or possibly has disappeared from the speech of younger generations in the town!
For example, among my own peer group (born early to mid 1970s), I do not remember hearing it used hardly at all. An example of one of the different types of elision arising at the time can be seen in references to the Warrington hospital.
As a young man, I would have said "I am going to the hospital" as follows:
"Am gooin the ozzy"
whereas my parents generation (born 1930s & 1940s) still pronounce the same sentence as follows:
"Am goin' t'th'ospital"
There are various phonetic differences that I am unable to transcribe here, but the main difference is in the elision between "the" and "hospital". My parents' generation maintain the elision described above th'ospital. My idiolect (the form of the dialect that any given individual speaks) does not show any elision between "the" and "hospital" at all. In fact, there is an intrusive /j/ (pronounced like "y" in yoga) between "the" and "hospital" as follows: the (y)'ozzy.
What is your experience? Think about what you say and how you say it, and post your comments here!
Monday, October 31, 2011
Survey results and food for thought!
Well, a disappointing response to the survey, but thank you to the people who answered, I appreciate your interest in the topic :-)
Despite the very low number of responses, the conclusions that can be drawn are as I had expected: Warringtonians pronounce "Nothing" as Neiwt.
This is important because it clearly distinguishes the Warrington dialect from the Lancashire dialect. Warrington was, of course, part of Lancashire up to 1974, when it then became part of Cheshire. A shift in county borders does not mean a shift in dialect, so the difference in pronunciation is interesting.
The Lancashire dialect has been studied in some detail, and one of its features is the owt - nowt pronunciation of anything - nothing, respectively. Although the Warrington dialect has many similarities and indeed shares many features with the Lancashire dialect, in this instance it differs distinctly.
Naught, Neiwt and Nowt seem to be almost certainly related. Naught meaning the decimal "0" and equally "nothing". Naught seems to have developed from the much older Old English word "nawiht" or "nōwiht", which in turn is a contraction of "ne-ō-wiht", which means "not a thing". It is easy to see the connection between "neiwt", "nowt" and "nawiht". This often happens in dialects; a word becomes popular for an arbitrary reason and then sticks despite concurrent developments in the standard language.
It seems "nawiht" and its various pronunciations has been around since the Old English period (400 - 1100AD). So we can assume that both neiwt and nowt are between 1500 - 1000 years old.
The premise that both pronunciations have been around so long, and that "nowt" has not superseded "neiwt" is testament to the Warrington dialect. Warrington was part of the County Palatine Lancashire for hundreds of years, and yet it still maintained its own unique features.
So the next time you say "neiwt", you are not saying nothing, you really are saying something!!!
Monday, October 24, 2011
New Dialect word of the week AND another survey
A "double whammy", to use the American vernacular, this week.
The new dialect word of the week is a real gem! Click on the link to find out.
And we have another survey that may be related to the dialect word of the week; I hope to find out from the good people of the town.
The survey focuses again on pronunciation, and this time we are dealing with possibly a very old word indeed! More details when the survey results are published.
So, to business - How do you pronounce the following words in the dialect:
Nothing:
1. Nowt
2. Neiwt
3. Some other pronunciation
Anything:
1. Owt
2. Eiwt
3. Some other pronunciation
As with the previous survey, please answer with the corresponding numbers and year of birth. My answers are:
2 & 2, 1974.
If you answer with a number 3 for either or both, please try to spell your pronunciation.
Let's see what we come up with. Many thanks :-)
Saturday, October 22, 2011
British Library Wordbank project
I have contacted the British Library concerning its Wordbank project, which aims to collect dialect words for posterity.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/world-translation-center/british-wordbank/162263300513573
The project has been running for some months now, and they have amassed quite a lot of dialect words from around the country. I hope the British Library will take me up on my offer of collaboration as we are essentially striving towards the same goal. Let's see what happens. I'll keep you all posted.
Keep those dialect words coming in, and we can record the Warrington dialect for future generations!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/world-translation-center/british-wordbank/162263300513573
The project has been running for some months now, and they have amassed quite a lot of dialect words from around the country. I hope the British Library will take me up on my offer of collaboration as we are essentially striving towards the same goal. Let's see what happens. I'll keep you all posted.
Keep those dialect words coming in, and we can record the Warrington dialect for future generations!
Wednesday, October 19, 2011
New dialect word of the week
A new dialect word of the week in keeping with the season :-)
Click on the "Dialect word of the week" link on the right.
Click on the "Dialect word of the week" link on the right.
Monday, October 17, 2011
Survey Results
Thank you to everyone that responded to the survey!
We didn't get as many responses as I had hoped for, and as such it is a little difficult to draw any meaningful conclusions. However, here is a little information on the phenomena we can see at work in the responses we received, and one conclusion that we can draw from the available data:
The omission of the "T"s in the "Go get them" sentence is a common linguistic phenomenon known as glottalisation. The term comes from the part of the throat known as the glottis, where the vocal chords are situated. Glottalisation occurs when the vocal chords are temporarily closed to obstruct the passage of air through them. This creates the sound that we think of as representing the omission of the "T"s.
If you now say "Go ge' 'em" to yourself, you will notice that there is a very brief gap in between ge' and 'em; this is the glottalisation, or as it is often called, the glottal stop.
The replacement of the "T"s with "R"s is another common linguistic phenomenon known as a linking R. The linking R occurs between two words; the preceding ending in a vowel sound, and the following beginning in a vowel sound. Note, we are referring to the sounds now, and not the actual letters! So, in the sentence "Go get them", in the natural speech of many Warringtonians, the verb get loses the final consonant and thus ends in a vowel sound /e/, and the pronoun them loses its initial consonants and begins with a vowel sound /e/, and hence we have the required prerequisites for the linking R to occur. As as our survey shows, it does indeed occur :-)
The second part of our survey requires us to know a little about a linguistic phenomenon known as phonetic transcription. As the name suggests, it belongs to the field of phonetics, which is defined as the study of the sounds of human speech. We need not go into this area in great depth, only to say that the sounds of any language are represented in written text by the International Phonetic Alphabet or IPA (which can be seen in dictionaries next to the word entry).
To be clear, the IPA does not refer to the spelling of words with letters (orthography), rather the sounds that make up words!
Our survey was interested to see if and when there has been a change in pronunciation of the vowel sound in "book". The two coexisting pronunciations are represented in the IPA phonetic transcription as follows (note that phonetic transcriptions are always surrounded by forward slashes):
1. book (rhyming with stuck) /buk/
2. book (rhyming with puke) /byk/
Of the six responses we received, five of them reported that they pronounced "book" as /buk/. Only one reported a pronunciation of "book" as /byk/. What is interesting about this is that those using the /buk/ pronunciation are born from 1950 onwards. The one /byk/ pronunciation was born pre-1950. On its own this carries very little weight, but in the absence of further responses, I factored in the pronunciation of my own Warrington-born relatives born pre-1950, and they all pronounce "book" as /byk/.
We can therefore conclude, albeit tentatively, that there was the start of a vowel sound /y/ - /u/ shift in the Warrington dialect at some point circa 1950!
This pronunciation shift is also relevant for similarly pronounced words such as: "look" and "cook".
Again, a big THANK YOU to all those that took /tuk/ not /tyk/ the time to answer. Your participation is very much appreciated :-)
We didn't get as many responses as I had hoped for, and as such it is a little difficult to draw any meaningful conclusions. However, here is a little information on the phenomena we can see at work in the responses we received, and one conclusion that we can draw from the available data:
The omission of the "T"s in the "Go get them" sentence is a common linguistic phenomenon known as glottalisation. The term comes from the part of the throat known as the glottis, where the vocal chords are situated. Glottalisation occurs when the vocal chords are temporarily closed to obstruct the passage of air through them. This creates the sound that we think of as representing the omission of the "T"s.
If you now say "Go ge' 'em" to yourself, you will notice that there is a very brief gap in between ge' and 'em; this is the glottalisation, or as it is often called, the glottal stop.
The replacement of the "T"s with "R"s is another common linguistic phenomenon known as a linking R. The linking R occurs between two words; the preceding ending in a vowel sound, and the following beginning in a vowel sound. Note, we are referring to the sounds now, and not the actual letters! So, in the sentence "Go get them", in the natural speech of many Warringtonians, the verb get loses the final consonant and thus ends in a vowel sound /e/, and the pronoun them loses its initial consonants and begins with a vowel sound /e/, and hence we have the required prerequisites for the linking R to occur. As as our survey shows, it does indeed occur :-)
The second part of our survey requires us to know a little about a linguistic phenomenon known as phonetic transcription. As the name suggests, it belongs to the field of phonetics, which is defined as the study of the sounds of human speech. We need not go into this area in great depth, only to say that the sounds of any language are represented in written text by the International Phonetic Alphabet or IPA (which can be seen in dictionaries next to the word entry).
To be clear, the IPA does not refer to the spelling of words with letters (orthography), rather the sounds that make up words!
Our survey was interested to see if and when there has been a change in pronunciation of the vowel sound in "book". The two coexisting pronunciations are represented in the IPA phonetic transcription as follows (note that phonetic transcriptions are always surrounded by forward slashes):
1. book (rhyming with stuck) /buk/
2. book (rhyming with puke) /byk/
Of the six responses we received, five of them reported that they pronounced "book" as /buk/. Only one reported a pronunciation of "book" as /byk/. What is interesting about this is that those using the /buk/ pronunciation are born from 1950 onwards. The one /byk/ pronunciation was born pre-1950. On its own this carries very little weight, but in the absence of further responses, I factored in the pronunciation of my own Warrington-born relatives born pre-1950, and they all pronounce "book" as /byk/.
We can therefore conclude, albeit tentatively, that there was the start of a vowel sound /y/ - /u/ shift in the Warrington dialect at some point circa 1950!
This pronunciation shift is also relevant for similarly pronounced words such as: "look" and "cook".
Again, a big THANK YOU to all those that took /tuk/ not /tyk/ the time to answer. Your participation is very much appreciated :-)
Thursday, October 13, 2011
A quick survey
I would like to do a quick survey concerning pronunciation in the Warrington area. It should only take you 30 seconds to do, but would provide very interesting results.
How do you pronounce the following word - BOOK?
1. Rhyming with "stuck"
2. Rhyming with ""puke"
How do you pronounce the following sentence - GO GET THEM?
3. Without the "T"s, as follows: "Go ge' 'em"
4. With an "R", as follows: Go gerrum
Please respond by posting a comment underneath this blog entry.
The comment only has to include: the number that corresponds to your pronunciation AND your year of birth. For example, my response would be: 1 & 4, 1974
No other information is required.
Let's see how many responses we get, and I'll post the results in a few days.
Many thanks :-)
How do you pronounce the following word - BOOK?
1. Rhyming with "stuck"
2. Rhyming with ""puke"
How do you pronounce the following sentence - GO GET THEM?
3. Without the "T"s, as follows: "Go ge' 'em"
4. With an "R", as follows: Go gerrum
Please respond by posting a comment underneath this blog entry.
The comment only has to include: the number that corresponds to your pronunciation AND your year of birth. For example, my response would be: 1 & 4, 1974
No other information is required.
Let's see how many responses we get, and I'll post the results in a few days.
Many thanks :-)
Monday, October 10, 2011
New dialect word of the week
Check out the latest dialect word of the week!
Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Wirelect is one month old today!
Wirelect is one month old today!
And to celebrate, here are some statistics ;-)
In just one month visitors from 32 cities in 9 countries around the world have read Wirelect content nearly 1000 times!
Most visits come from England, followed very closely by Finland, and then Australia.
We have had comments from a few people, with one regular contributor in addition to myself.
This is a great start, but we need more words and phrases in order to amass enough data to put together a dictionary. If you are a Warringtonian, please add a comment. The best contributors will get their name in the finished dictionary!
Thank you to everyone who has visited and/or contributed. Keep watching, this is just the start!
And to celebrate, here are some statistics ;-)
In just one month visitors from 32 cities in 9 countries around the world have read Wirelect content nearly 1000 times!
Most visits come from England, followed very closely by Finland, and then Australia.
We have had comments from a few people, with one regular contributor in addition to myself.
This is a great start, but we need more words and phrases in order to amass enough data to put together a dictionary. If you are a Warringtonian, please add a comment. The best contributors will get their name in the finished dictionary!
Thank you to everyone who has visited and/or contributed. Keep watching, this is just the start!
Thursday, September 29, 2011
Register - the way we speak and why.
Did you know that you can speak many different versions of your own language?
You can. We all can!
Check out the "Understanding language" page for more information on how we communicate.
You can. We all can!
Check out the "Understanding language" page for more information on how we communicate.
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Phrases and Idioms
Do you like a drink of corporation pop after taking shanks' pony?
Not sure what this means? Check out the new page for Phrases and Idioms!
Add your own phrases and sayings in the comment field.
Not sure what this means? Check out the new page for Phrases and Idioms!
Add your own phrases and sayings in the comment field.
Monday, September 26, 2011
New dialect word of the week
Check out the new dialect word of the week!
Post your comments.
Post your comments.
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
Themes
Check out the new information on the Themes page: Descriptive and prescriptive language
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Wirelect in the news!
Wirelect in the news!
The Warrington Guardian has published a feature on the Wirelect project in the paper copy of the newspaper.
Have a look and tell your friends!
Many thanks to the Warrington Guardian!
I do not know if it will be published in the electronic version of the Warrington Guardian. I will post the link here if/when it is published electronically.
The Warrington Guardian has published a feature on the Wirelect project in the paper copy of the newspaper.
Have a look and tell your friends!
Many thanks to the Warrington Guardian!
I do not know if it will be published in the electronic version of the Warrington Guardian. I will post the link here if/when it is published electronically.
Thursday, September 15, 2011
New words posted!
Check out the latest dialect words on "Dialect word of the week".
Any opinions? Do you disagree with the definition? Post your comments!
Any opinions? Do you disagree with the definition? Post your comments!
Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Themes - Etymology
Wirelect has a new page - Themes
This page will contain some of the central concepts in the project, and just general information on dialects and dialectology.
This time it's the turn of Etymology, or the history of a word.
Click on the "Themes" link on the right of this post and check it out.
This page will contain some of the central concepts in the project, and just general information on dialects and dialectology.
This time it's the turn of Etymology, or the history of a word.
Click on the "Themes" link on the right of this post and check it out.
Sunday, September 11, 2011
Dialect word of the week
Check out this week's "Dialect word of the week".
Click on the link on the right of this post. Feel free to comment.
Click on the link on the right of this post. Feel free to comment.
Thursday, September 8, 2011
Dialect word of the week
Check out the new page - Dialect word of the week.
Every week I will post a dialect word with a dictionary definition (if one exists), my own definition (if different from dictionary definition), an example of use, and hopefully an on-line reference of some sort.
If you use the word yourself and have any comments, or you disagree with the definition, or whatever, post your comments on the page.
Every week I will post a dialect word with a dictionary definition (if one exists), my own definition (if different from dictionary definition), an example of use, and hopefully an on-line reference of some sort.
If you use the word yourself and have any comments, or you disagree with the definition, or whatever, post your comments on the page.
How to post your comments
If you want to post a word or phrase then follow these simple instructions:
Thanks for posting :-)
- Click on the "Your dialect words" link on the right of this blog post
- Enter the word or phrase you want to share with the community
- Select a profile from the drop-down menu (e.g. anonymous)
- Click the "Post comment" box
Thanks for posting :-)
Wednesday, September 7, 2011
Wirelect - open for business!
Welcome to Wirelect!
Wirelect is a blog project dedicated to the Warrington dialect. The aim is to collect and document the Warrington dialect by crowdsourcing, that is, you the reader. The blog is open for anyone to read, but it is the aim of the project to get speakers of the Warrington dialect to sign up to the blog, and post the words and phrases that they use so that we can document the dialect.
This is just the start. Much more information and instructions will become available in the coming days and weeks.
So sign up and "mek yer voice 'erd!"
Wirelect is a blog project dedicated to the Warrington dialect. The aim is to collect and document the Warrington dialect by crowdsourcing, that is, you the reader. The blog is open for anyone to read, but it is the aim of the project to get speakers of the Warrington dialect to sign up to the blog, and post the words and phrases that they use so that we can document the dialect.
This is just the start. Much more information and instructions will become available in the coming days and weeks.
So sign up and "mek yer voice 'erd!"
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